Restored, Original, Survivor

L639 Zenith Blue '67 Beetle

Admin note: I’d like to pause for a moment to thank Jay Salser for his continuing contributions to 1967beetle.com. Our audience has grown in leaps and bounds because of your efforts.

We, who have an interest in Vintage Vehicles, use a number of terms to describe our own vehicles and those which we see at shows, club meetings and elsewhere. Sellers also advertise their vehicles, using these same terms.

Often there is little thought about the terms which we use and what is implied when we use them.

The USA VW Community has always been pretty relaxed about our vintage vehicle society, including how we describe our cars. We have not been as “organized” and precise about how we evaluate our cars as has the “Big Car Community”. With classically preserved Volkswagens in the USA fetching into the 5 figures, and even higher, it is time that we paid more attention to how we look at our cars.

Having an inordinate interest in vintage Volkswagens, I read lots of for-sale ads and also listen to owners describing their cars. Mostly, there are three terms, or variations of them, used in these descriptions:

  • Restored
  • Original
  • Survivor

Let’s look at these three and how they should be used and how they are interrelated.

RESTORED

The definition of “Restored” always has to do with returning something to its original condition. While a vehicle may have been completely renewed, it has not necessarily been restored. I have seen and read about thousands of vehicles which are said to have been “restored” only to find that although they have been partially or even completely renewed it is not to factory specifications. This can be very misleading, especially to the would-be buyer. He may have a completely different idea about “restored”. It is not infrequently the case that once the car has been purchased, the new owner finds, to his dismay, that the car does not meet factory specifications. Although it is completely new throughout, there are variances. This changes the way judges, for instance, will look at that vehicle. It falls into a completely different class, somewhere within the “modified” class.

I am not too critical of a seller or owner who describes his car as having been refreshed or rebuilt. However, once I see an ad or description for a vehicle that says “restored”, I switch to a different gear. Now, I am judging that vehicle in a different light.

In the World of Vintage Vehicles, “restored” means just that—completely restored to original factory condition.

ORIGINAL

The term “Original”, when applied to vintage automobiles, refers to an automobile that has not been significantly altered since it left the factory. The vehicle may have had regular maintenance such as tune-ups, changes of tires, other mechanical parts and so forth, but these should be of the same sort as the original equipment if at all possible.

The point of having a car in original condition is history. History is everything at this point. An original vehicle is essential when judging other cars of the same make and model. One cannot judge cars based upon restored examples because a restored example no longer completely exemplifies what left the factory doors.

But wait…there’s more. Bloomington-Gold, Corvettes USA, divides originality into 5 categories:

  • Originality
  • Damage
  • Deterioration or missing pieces
  • Technical operation
  • Cleanliness
  • Numbers

Of these, Number 1., Originality, is further divided into 5 sub-categories which are called FDICC or Finish, Date Codes, Installation, Completeness and Configuration.

I am not going to give a complete paper on Bloomington-Gold’s judging process but rather a brief over-view so that you, the readers, can get the idea. Let’s look briefly at the FDICC, for example:

Finish refers to the color and coating. Although the coating may have become faded and rusted in spots, it still should be the same as when it left the factory. The vehicle cannot have been repainted, in other words. Points are lost for damage or deterioration but these may be off-set because of the originality of the finish.

Parts should have the correct relevant date codes even though a part might have been changed. The replacement part should bear a date code from the same period as the original factory part.

Parts should function as they did when the car was new.

Remembering that points for originality often help to off-set deterioration and non-functioning parts, the judging continues through the sub-list of FDICC proscribed for “originality”.

Bloomington-Gold says: “The question that you or the judge would be asking is, ‘Would the factory have allowed the part to leave the factory in this condition?’”

Thus, a car which is a functioning vehicle but shows some points of wear and so forth, may lose points for that deterioration but also may accrue points for originality of appearance, function, date stampings, completeness and configuration (correct assembly). However, the car that is original but non-functioning, will not make it to “the finals” because too many points for deterioration will have accrued which over-shadow its originality.

This rather divides “originality“ into two categories—an original vehicle which is non-functioning and an original vehicle which functions but is not necessarily perfect.

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This 1967 Beetle is an example of an Original Vintage Vehicle. Although it has some deterioration, it would receive good marks for originality, assembly and function that possibly would over-shadow the blemishes. The car has original paint, pans, numbers-matching engine and transaxle, bumpers, interior, carburetor (now rebuilt), working radio, 12 volt working system, rims with correct color coding, keys, non-original tires but in the original style and a non-original fuel pump. It is missing some hose clamps. There is no rust on the car and the pans have no repairs. This car could be used when comparing for originality of factory condition.

SURVIVOR

Now, we come to Survivor vehicles. A survivor vehicle is all original, but not all original vehicles are survivors. Here’s how this works.

We all read about “barn finds”—cars which have been stored and not used for decades. Maybe a person bought the car, or inherited it, but for reasons all his own, or perhaps due to health or his demise, the car has remained stored and unused.

Or perhaps a car was purchased but used only for special occasions.

Such a vehicle may be a “survivor”.

Again, in order to bring some semblance of order to the industry, Bloomington-Gold experts have drawn up a set of standards by which to judge whether a car is a survivor or not. (Bloomington-Gold holds the copyright to the definition of “Survivor”)

A survivor vehicle is a special vehicle. It holds the secrets from the factory by which all other cars of its make and model may be judged with finality. It is the standard, much as are the weights and measurement standards which are housed in the Smithsonian, for example. It represents what no restored model can. It also surpasses cars which are all original functioning vehicles but which cannot be said to be true survivors.

So, what is a “survivor vehicle”?

According to the Bloomington-Gold Standards, a survivor is a vehicle which, never having been restored, has survived “…intentional or unintentional loss of original markings, paint or components…. remaining over 50% unrestored or unmodified….may qualify…if it remains in a condition that would serve well as an historic guide for others who want to restore (a car) of that vintage and type.”

Bloomington-Gold goes on to say that such a vehicle is “worn in but not worn out.” It is a vehicle which “…is significantly unrestored, unrepaired or unmodified and useful as an historic reference”.

Furthermore…it is a vehicle which, in the best interest of research, should not be restored or improved upon. This is the short of it.

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The Klintworth Beetle is an unmolested example of a 1967 Beetle Sedan, with only some repairs, as necessary, to keep it road-worthy. To do this, Rees installed new correct fuel lines, a new fuel pump, new spark plugs and ignition coil. He rebuilt the original carburetor. He installed new tires, master cylinder and wheel cylinders. The car was cleaned and the paint buffed—the paint looks good with few blemishes. He also installed an up-dated radio and speakers and larger tail pipe tubes. This car would have some points deducted for the radio and speakers and the larger tail pipes. There might be some question about the fuel pump. It would appear that this car should qualify as a Survivor.

BENCHMARK SURVIVOR

Bloomington-Gold goes one step further with a sub-category of Survivor which it calls “Benchmark” (also copyrighted by Bloomington-Gold).

This category is for “those very rare, select (vehicles) that represent the ultimate in factory originality and condition”. A Benchmark vehicle not only is NOT restored—it is in showroom condition. These cars serve an ultimate purpose of being the perfect representation of a factory delivery vehicle.

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Not finding an example of a 1967 Beetle, I have chosen to illustrate this Category using a 1957 Beetle Sedan which certainly seems to exemplify all of the characteristics of a Benchmark Survivor.

First, the vehicle has extremely low mileage—just over 13,000 documented miles. The owner has photographically documented the car from the time he obtained it until the present. He has documented anything which he has found necessary to keep the car road-worthy—only a new coil, battery, tires and fuel tap. Everything else about this car is as it left the factory assembly line. It is without blemish. This vehicle, therefore, can be used to judge all other 1957 Beetle Sedans meant for USA consumption. There is no guesswork involved. It truly is a magnificent example—a museum specimen.

What can we, as owners of vintage Volkswagens, do to be more realistic about our cars ? For one thing, we can reassess our own vehicles and describe them correctly. Also, we can encourage others in the VW Community to follow suit. Those who organize and manage clubs, shows and sales can suggest and encourage correct descriptions. Gentle nudging will work with most people but some may need further explanation before they see the benefits of correctness.

When all is said and done—what we want is for the Volkswagen Community to stay abreast of up-to-date information so that it can make its mark in the Vintage Automotive Community. We have come of age—let’s act our age!

The Finishing Touches for Your Vintage Volkswagen™

Jay Salser

I’ve been driving and working on VWs for over 37 years. In fact, I raised my family in these cars. Now, I’m 75 years old and enjoy VWs as a hobby. The ’67 Beetle always has been my favorite year.

35 Comments

Gary Beck

about 1 year ago

Great write up. Thanks Jay

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charlie

about 1 year ago

Does this mean any car that is re-painted with anything other than factory paint can not be a restored car? I guess I am wondering what the definition of 'factory specs' is. I assume any 67 with a 1600 engine could not be considered restored.

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Jay Salser

about 1 year ago

Charlie...Specifically, a car that is restored should be as it came from the factory. There are some exceptions-for instance: since it is now virtually impossible to acquire 1500cc cylinder/piston sets, we are using 1600cc sets. There should be an attempt to use parts that conform to original standards where at all possible. The problem that I address is that, especially in the VW Community, we so loosely use the term "restored" if the car has a new paint job and new seat covers. We have developed all sorts of folksy terminology to describe our cars..With Volkswagens becoming more valuable as vintage collector cars, we must reckon with the rest of the Vintage Car World with more serious descriptions. jay

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charlie

about 1 year ago

Yes, I have come across many 'restored' cars for sale in the past that as you say have a new paint job and seat covers. I agree with the value rising on these old VW's we should stick to recognized terminology. Another great article by the way! Thank you for your contributions.

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Jay Salser

about 1 year ago

Charlie...You have struck a resonating chord! Eric and I have talked about the ads for '67s which we see constantly. "Restored", or even "Professionally Restored" or "Correctly Restored" are some of the descriptions of choice. Yet, as we read the ads, the cars have not been properly restored. Some have had only minor things done so that the car will appear more presentable. In some cases the car will have been completely gone through but sports so many changes that you wonder where the 1967 went. Nice car--just not what the description read. jay

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Eric Shoemaker

about 1 year ago

Yes. Jay and I exchange emails daily on these terms. It's really funny what people considered "restored." If I could find a survivor car, I'd probably not even wash it.

timm

about 1 year ago

Great article. I will be using the term "rebuilt" instead of "restored" for my 62 Ragtop. I usually don't use the term "restored" for this car but admit it has slipped out a few times. Thank you!

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Jay Salser

about 1 year ago

Hi, Timm...I tell people that my '67 has been "reconditioned". I've had several '67s and wanted to do a few "peculiar" things to this one. Thus, it would fall into the "modified" class--certainly not "restored"--although I do have some of those highly desirable and scarce parts on my Beetle. jay

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Lou

about 1 year ago

Well said Jay, Your photo examples were well chosen. Lou

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charlie

about 1 year ago

Rebuilt! That is the word I was looking for. Same for my 67 that should be done sometime in March.

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Sabrina Leslie

about 1 year ago

So, now I am wondering if my grandfathers truck that I now own is an original or a survivor. He bought it new in '69, has never been repainted, has everything original except the oil bath filter which I replaced with a paper, original pipes, interior... Was only driven once a month, and now I have it. Is it worth more as an original or a survivor? I am utterly confused now.

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Eric Shoemaker

about 1 year ago

Jay could probably advise on that one.

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Jay Salser

about 1 year ago

Hello, Sabrina...I believe that you have two questions which I will attempt to answer. First, let me say that I am not touching your vehicle, so what I have to say could be contested. Originality has to do with not having been changed from how the vehicle came from the factory. You indicate that, aside from some minor aspects, the truck is as it should be: i.e. factory paint, factory interior, etc., etc. Now, what a person should address would be the quality of the originality of the truck. As I say in my article, points can be deducted for the dings and scratches, etc. But an original vehicle that is functioning and which has good appeal (not used up and abused) would certainly be desirable. Its worth, in my estimation, would exceed one that had been altered (now not original) or, in some cases, even restored (which changes everything). As far as survivorship--again, not being on the spot with the vehicle, it would be difficult for me to assess whether or not this vehicle surpasses originality and exhibits not only unaltered features, it is an original in very superior condition and which needs almost nothing for its ability to operate properly. Such a vehicle would, indeed, have more intrinsic value than the original vehicle. I know that it costs a lot of money and time to restore a vehicle--however, if we are considering how much the vehicle is changed once it has been restored, we can see that intrinsic value has decreased and, in some cases, been lost. History is very important. History is key Thank you for turning to 1967Beetle.com, Sabrina! jay

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Rees Klintworth

about 1 year ago

Very well written article! That clears up a lot of confusion I had about the difference between original and survivor. I also appreciated scrolling through and seeing pictures of my own bug :) I've definitely described my Beetle as "original", but now I will start using the survivor terminology. Thanks!

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Jay Salser

about 1 year ago

Rees...Good to hear from you. If you recall, when I was editing your article I was impressed enough with the description of your '67 to believe that it should not be restored--just cleaned and maintained. It certainly appears to qualify as an "original" vehicle. In my estimation it appears to go further than that--to be a true "survivor". jay

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Mike Buettell

about 1 year ago

So Jay, how do we refer to works in progress? Can I still say, "I'm restoring a '67 Beetle," if the finished product is months away and in the end might fall in the "rebuilt" catagory?

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Jay Salser

about 1 year ago

Hello, Mike...Good to hear from you! I'm supposing that you have at least a mental blueprint as you are working on your '67. I know that I did. I didn't fool myself into thinking that it was going to be to spec--because I actually studied extensively on some aspects before I altered the car. Maybe you have begun the car to be a restoration project but time runs out, or money, and you do what a lot of us do--finish the car but don't use square weave carpeting. Maybe we can't find all of the correct parts. We end up with nice cars. My point is that we have to be honest with ourselves--and the rest of the Vintage Community--about what we have. Am I being too idealistic--maybe. But, we have to begin somewhere. I began with my own car and how I describe it. It doesn't bother me. I get lots of compliments on the car and I certainly get a lot of joy out of owning and driving it. jay

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Eric Shoemaker

about 1 year ago

Thanks everyone for all the comments! Kudos to Dr. Salser for such great content.

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Hank Bahmer

about 1 year ago

Any one should be able to refer to their vehicle just as they wish and not be restricted by what another collector thinks. Survivor means any that survived.... if it is here it survived. Restored can mean a multitude of things and virtually no car is 100% original if anything at all has been changed. How about this, let's lighten up and just enjoy our cars. Hank

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Jay Salser

about 1 year ago

Good morning, Hank...Yes, I agree with you. We SHOULD enjoy our cars. I know that I enjoy mine. At the same time, we can't go on forever making claims about our vintage vehicles that contradict the basics of the Vintage Collector World. We have that old saying: "A rose by any other name is still a rose." We can continue to refer to our cars by any terms which we like but it doesn't change the fact that Volkswagens are rapidly entering the Vintage Car Scene as "movers and shakers". This has rather taken the VW Community by surprise. I keep hearing the complaint that "now a person can't find a decent Beetle for under (name a sum) like we used to". This is true. I've had to adjust my thinking from the '70s and '80s when I could buy a very nice Beetle for under $300 bucks. Today, people would be falling all over themselves to buy the same vehicles for $8-10 grand! What happened? Here's what has happened--these cars have become collector pieces. Back then, no one was "restoring" Beetles"--there were too many good ones available. So, whether we like it or not or even want to participate, VW has jumped through the door into the Vintage Arena. And, rightly so--these cars have a lot to offer. What a history Volkswagen has had. Volkswagen has made a name for itself and now it is receiving the honor which it deserves. Happy Motoring, Hank! jay

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Hank Bahmer

about 1 year ago

Right on, Jay. However, even though there is a surge in interest in VWs, changing names, wording, rules, regulations etc. will not change either the cars or the people who own the cars. The only people who will be honest are those who are already honest. "A rose by any other name is still a rose" and locks are only a deterrent to honest people.

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Eric Shoemaker

about 1 year ago

Admin note: Hank, You have to keep in mind, Jay and I have been talking about this for some time. We exchange emails daily on many of the '67 Beetles on the market. For me, it's one of frustration. So many people are dishonest in the sale of their vintage vehicle. It takes a keen eye and understanding of what the term "restored", "original", and "survivor" really means. Jay's been around these cars longer than I've been alive. He's a wealth of knowledge is involved in this great hobby for the same reason I am; the same reason I believe we all are.

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Jay Salser

about 1 year ago

You are so right, Hank. Thanks for chiming in! jay

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matthewjohnkeen

about 1 year ago

Excellent article jay, this reminds me of a UK Comedy "Only fools and horses" and "Triggers Broom" This is how it goes.... In Sid’s Café, road sweeper Trigger shows Boycie, Del Boy and Rodney a photograph in which Councillor Murray is seen presenting him with a medal. Rodney: “So what exactly is the award for?” Trig: “For saving the Council money. I happened to mention to her one day that I’ve had the same broom for 20 years She was very impressed and said, ‘Have a medal’.” [Pause] “20 years; that’s a long time, Dave.” Rodney: “Yeah. Well it’s two decades, innit?” Trig: “I wouldn’t go that far. But it’s a long time.” Later … he proudly shows them his broom. Trig: “I’ve maintained it for 20 years. This old broom has had 17 new heads and 14 new handles in its time.” Sid: “How the hell can it be the same bloody broom then?” Trig (indignantly): “Well here’s a picture of it. What more proof do you need?” matthew :)

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matthewjohnkeen

about 1 year ago

Here is the clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1VNNbSYdt0 I bet there are alot of cars out there like "Triggers Broom"

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Nick Rios

about 1 year ago

I own a 67 that I bought from craigslist. The dude i bought my bug from said it was restored. It wasn't but i'm dumb and bought it . It has a 1600 dual port. i want to know if its considered a restomod car or unfinished. i do have a modern radio in the glove box and subs in the back. I installed a car alarm in it, because it is my daily driver. By the way I am 16 years old. Thank you for reading ! :)

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Eric Shoemaker

about 1 year ago

Nick, Yeah, that (sadly) does not sound like a restored '67. Jay and I talk about this a lot. People use it more as a marketing "buzz" word than truth. If anything, that's another reason 1967beetle.com exist. We are here for you.

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Jay Salser

about 1 year ago

Hello, Nick...Thanks for commenting! Changes from what a car was like when it emerged from the factory generally put a car into the "modified" category at shows. To be restored, your car would need to be put back to all original. Maybe you don't want to do this. A lot of people don't. My own car is not restored--I call it "reconditioned". It is unfortunate that many people knowingly advertise cars using incorrect and misleading descriptions. Some people advertise or describe their cars improperly not meaning any harm--just not understanding, perhaps, what they have. If you like your car as it is, love it and use it! Stay tuned to 1967Beetle.com jay

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Nick Rios

about 1 year ago

thanks guys i will use the term "reconditioned" now instead of restomod ! :)

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Jay Salser

about 1 year ago

I think that "restomod" is pretty descriptive and clear. Not a bad term at all, Nick. jay

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Eric Shoemaker

about 1 year ago

Nick, I also wanted to add. Enjoy your '67, no matter what. Sure, we love all correct restorations however, we are all in this hobby to drive and enjoy these cars.

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Jay Salser

about 11 months ago

I found some additional information which I think bears on this subject, and I quote from Hagerty Classic Cars Weekly News for December 23-29, 2013. The article by Jeff Peek is entitled: Reggie Jackson's Cars are a Hit at Spring Auburn. (this is an auction) Reggie Jackson (Baseball Star) at Auctions America by RM Auburn (Indiana) Spring Sale last month (November, 2013) "Jackson also took part in a panel discussion on Saturday morning of the three-day event along with Hagerty magazine columnist Wayne Carini, host of TV’s Chasing Classic Cars; Joe Bortz, concept car collector...and historian, and Glenn Bator, a vintage motorcycle expert. Carini spoke about the importance of unrestored vehicles, and said “people are finally getting it – that cars are only original once, whether there’s a nick in (the paint) or a tear in the upholstery.” Jackson agreed, saying his collection (of about 50 vehicles) is made up of approximately half original and half restored cars." Yes...the Vintage Vehicle Collector Public is getting the word--an original vehicle is a good thing. If it doesn't need to be restored, leave it alone--it may be or become worth more in the long run--not always in terms of monetary value but certainly in terms of intrinsic, historic value. jay

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Eric Shoemaker

about 11 months ago

Jay, This is really great info. Thank you for posting it for our readers.

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Jay Salser

about 11 months ago

I watch the publications which I receive and will continue to ply our readers with such information as is pertinent. I want to see the Volkswagen Community push itself to its potential. VW deserves a place "at the table"! jay

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Jay Salser

about 11 months ago

For our collective continuing education about Classes of Automobiles and Judging Standards, I offer the following: AACA introduces new judging class just for Volkswagens (1/6/14) Written by Kurt Ernst Posted in Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/01/06/aaca-introduces-new-judging-class-just-for-volkswagens/?refer=news For years, Volkswagen owners who were also Antique Automobile Club of America (AACA) members could exhibit their prized possessions in the AACA’s standard production classes, meaning that a 1965 VW Beetle would be competing against cars like a 1965 Chevrolet Corvair or a 1965 Ford Galaxie in Production Vehicle class 27f points judging. In 2010, the AACA implemented a change in direction, lumping Volkswagens into the Small Vehicle class (primarily class 04b, for vehicles built from 1942-1988), where they’d compete against the likes of Crosleys, Bantams, BMW Isettas and Mini Coopers. Now, thanks to member feedback, the AACA will introduce a new Small Vehicle class, 04c, dedicated to Volkswagen models of all types, beginning in 2014. The move was not without its controversy, as the population of Volkswagen-showing AACA members seemed to be split between returning to production classes for future judging and branching out into a new small car class. An initial member survey, sent in early 2013, showed that a majority of owners preferred a dedicated class, while a follow-up survey (which also presented the alternative of returning to production classes) confirmed this. Adding to the confusion was the fact that Volkswagen models were judged in production classes for much of 2013, instead of the previously approved Small Vehicle class 04b. Initially, it appeared as if Volkwagen Type 2 models (commonly referred to as campers and buses) would be excluded from the new, dedicated class 04c (since they really aren’t “small” in size), but this is no longer the case. For 2014 AACA competition, all Volkswagens up to the cutoff year of 1989 will be judged under class 04c, regardless of whether they’re air cooled, water cooled, driven through the front wheels or driven through the rear wheels. The Volkswagen Beetle was recently recognized as one of the 10 most significant antique automobiles by the AACA, primarily for its impact on the mass-market compact-car segment. As the AACA points out, it was the Volkswagen Beetle that prompted domestic automakers to improve compact offerings, thus creating a viable and ongoing segment of the auto industry. ================= One reader of the above posted this comment: J. D. says: January 6, 2014 AACA judging evaluates antique vehicles that have been “restored to the same state as when the dealer received the vehicle from the factory,” as described in the AACA Judging Guidelines. Vehicles are judged based on a set of standards in four categories: exterior, interior, chassis and engine. Vehicles in the various judging classes do not compete against each other, per se, but are judged based on the categories. Thus, for example, a VW, Corvair and Ford Galaxie all could earn a First Junior Award even though they were in the same class. As an AACA Judge, I’ve often judged different vehicles in the same class, but always considered each vehicle on its own merits per the judging standards. In the AACA it’s not a matter of competing against other automobiles in a class. All vehicles are judged to the same standards, with authenticity and condition as the major components. The awards structure in AACA isn’t set up as 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. within each class. All vehicles judged start out with the same number of points, with points deducted from that number in the four areas I mentioned above. The level of award earned is a function of how many points a vehicle earns, not how it scores against another vehicle. ============== Whether everyone in the Volkswagen community likes or wants it--Volkswagen HAS come of age. My admonition is to get in line and enjoy the ride! jay

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